@oblivion551 A sure thing to do would be to check if the money people drop is wallets. If it's cashpiles, the mod doesn't work.

Before this version of the mod I had my game on vanilla and noticed a lot of similar changes that I already had in my mod, I suspect Rockstar to have implemented a lot of the stealth mods into the vanilla game, maybe during 2017.

@oblivion551 You can find in my Test History folder in the mod, a txt file that talks about that, and the different things I noticed on the vanilla game last year.

Hi
First thanks for a great mod.
I'm planning to use this mod together with Better Chases + Arrest Warrant, world of variety and Redux 1.4.
This mods have several similar files and functionality, and Im not sure how to make this mods compatible. Any suggestions to what files to use and order of installing the mods?

@xxx78 Stripped down stealth/cops only:

update.rpf\x64\data -- peds.ymt

update.rpf\x64\data\tune -- wantedtuning.ymt

update.rpf\common\data -- dispatch.meta
update.rpf\common\data -- relationships.dat

update.rpf\common\data\action -- damages.meta

update.rpf\common\data\ai -- crimeinformation.meta
update.rpf\common\data\ai -- weapons.meta
update.rpf\common\data\ai -- witnessnformation.meta

Install those after every other mod. I can't tell if there will be incompatibilities or not, early guys said Chase and Warrant had problems, latest guys report it works fine with FTFR. Redux is a fucking mess and I do not recommend it but if you still wanna go through remember to install FTFR last.

It's worth a shot testing the whole mod, after all it's just a matter of installing every other mod, make a copy of update.rpf, install FTFR, try it out, and if it doesn't work, install the stripped down version mentioned above.

@xxx78 Oh and here's the latest modded WOV peds.ymt if you want to install WOV.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17CLd4QxK1Rt5LgO7bLvIe5HTIFu3vzo4/view?usp=sharing

@The_XXI Thanks for your reply and detailed suggestions, really appreciate it. Amazing mod support you provide, thats almost a reason alone to use your mod :)
About Redux, I love the visuals, weather and effects but that mod tweaking everything making it hard to use with any mod...but it look and work great and I think I can skip many mods since Redux already have them included.
Any special reason you do not recommend Redux, latest version seem to work fine, but Im a noob when it comes to modding so I dont really know? My plan is to use Redux as a base and then add mods on top of it, maybe around 30-40 mods in total.

@xxx78 Thanks I appreciate.

...I guess it's as much as a biased gut thing as it is a bandwagon thing in my case. Basically the guy had a ton of backlash back in the day because he copy pasted stuff without permission nor mentions, now arguably most of the files we mod are open source, most of the files in my mod are based of other people tweaks for example (no persmissions asked, just credit given), we're modding existing values, but some people actually work on scripts themselves from scratch, using those without asking is a bit more uncool.

Also I remember looking at the files and seeing tooooons of things that seemed unecessary nor actually good, to me it seemed like either very bad taste or plane lazyness of just copy pasting a lot of stuff without tweaking it.

Obviously he did put a tremendous amount of efforts in his thing, from the website to the promo, to the actually merging and tweaking of values, I can't deny him that. I just don't feel it. But yes it's indeed a great way to access a ton of mods without much hassle, and it objectively has a lot of qualities. Again not my jam.

I've seen Natural Vision Remastered evolve a lot, at the start I thought it was mediocre, now I think it looks extremely good. But even VisualV retains the vanilla artistic direction whilst enhancing the graphics still. So I'm like that, leaning more towards lighter mods, plus WOV, FTFR, and a few scripts And I'm good. Funnily my GTA IV has the best graphics you can get with the best looking ENB I've ever found (, but I never bothered with GTA V cause it looks so very good already.

For the IV ENB, it's this guy, he's currently working on something for GTA V, I love his work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZqH11eKp44

Hi,
First of all, thank you very much for this mod. The work you made is amazing and adds a lot in terms of realism and gameplay, I really can't play my game without it.
I wanted to ask you, is this mod compatible with Dispatch of Variety? https://it.gta5-mods.com/misc/dispatch-of-variety Basically that mod is a "lite" version of the defunct (for now) RDE and uses World of Variety files as base.
Thank you again for your work and sorry for the bad english.

@Scarpantibus It unfortunately is not.

Again, always do backups before anything but, what you can do after installing Dispatch of Variety is install FTFR's wantedtuning.ymt, it goes in update\update.rpf\x64\data\tune.

That way you'll have all of DOV features whilst retaining FTFR's identification range (hide in unidentified cars à la Watch Dogs and get spotted only at close range), aswell as the far cop despawn distance (as long as you're hidden, they'll stick much longer to your last position), and a few other values.

It's a halfway trade but it should be alright.

@The_XXI Thanks again for your reply and help.
Its true what you said about Redux, there is an insane amount of tweaked and deleted settings that seem to have little purpose, making it hard to work with other mods sadly

@The_XXI Thank you for your detailed support. I am trying to create my little enhanced version of GTA V balanced between realism and fun.
I'm using VisulaV, LA Roads, LA Vegetation for graphics, IVPack, World of Variety, Vanillawork Extended, Dispatch of Variety (all with the patches provided by authors) for the general world, then I'm trying to integrate your mod for gameplay plus other small quality of life mods (scripts, blood and sounds mods, ragdolls etc.)
I always prefer to install mods manually 'cause I want personally see the files I'm going to replace and because I am totally new to GTA V Modding, so I make toooons of backups (my 1TB external drive hates me XD). I'll do some tweaking here and there following your advice, maybe I'll try only DOV's dispatch.meta (and models for cars and peds), and I'll replace the other identical files with yours to see exactly what each file does and comparing conflicts.
One thing is certain, I'll never delete your mod :D (not entirely at least)

@Scarpantibus You have a good logic there.

Though understand a few things:

- FTFR's dispatch needs FTFR's peds.ymt (I have an updated WOV compatible here https://goo.gl/88Ufkb)
- DOV's dispatch calls to assets in other files, it cannot work without those files (peds.ymt and vehicle related files)
- You could absolutely find the chunks of independent FTFR values (timers in dispacth for example) and replace the same values in DOV files
- Before creating this mod I was a user just like you, wanting a better experience, one day I say fuck it and manually merged some values in notepad++

Cheers and good luck!

@The_XXI Yeah mod merging is a good way to prevent conflicts in my opinion and is a good way to learn more about the structure of a game (what does this specific file do? What assets does it call? How can i customize it to my own liking? Etc.)
I am not totally new to modding in general, I used to mod Bethesda games like Fallout or Skyrim, compared to them GTA V is a lot more optimized and needs less tweaking but has got a bit more confusing folder structure. GTA V folders are made like a matryoshka doll and usually share identical names (update.rpf, update, x64 folders for example) and is easy to lose yourself into them the first times you try to mod the game. And bugs are always around the corner saying "hellooo there" when you least expect it.
At the beginning of my modding experience I used Redux, it adds a lot of things but it's an unoptimized mess and I just don't like the real-life billboards it adds because I think they break the lore of the game. One of the things that make GTA franchise a gaming pearl imho is the fact that it's set in an entirely different universe that parodies our in every aspect: cities, society, vehicles, etc. So I started to mod the game my way, enhancing it but retaining all the vanilla-esque aspects that make this game great.
Will I succeed? I don't know because I know anything about programming or advanced editing but, for now, I just try to use logic (and a lot of backups :D)

Thank you for the peds.ymt and for the advices, I really appreciate it.

@The_XXI
Im trying to merge your peds.ymt with redux to make them compatible. Your peds.ymt file I have no problem to read and edit, but vanilla and Redux peds.ymt I cant read or edit. How did you manage to tweak original gta 5 peds.ymt? How can I open and edit it?

The peds.ymt file from vanilla and Redex have unreadable characters, looking very strange. Any idea how to make this files understandable?

@xxx78 Every meta, ymt mods and the likes rely either on OpenIV decoding, or those old Xbox values from 2013 https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0BwtG7xVTF5dpRUdTY3R0M2RfMEU

About my peds.ymt it's very simple. Take whatever peds.ymt you want, WOV for example, ctrl F (search) MP_M_FIBSec_01, modify the <Pedtype> value to swat. Do the same for S_M_M_CIASec_01. This is to work with my dispatch, for those cop type to spawn and behave properly. So if you don't plan to use FTFR's dispacth, don't bother with FTFR's peds.ymt.

This is hands down still one of the greatest mods on here! Was just wondering if it were possible to manually edit any files like wanted fine tuning to make it possible to evade the police whilst ducking in a vehicle? I'm using passenger mods that let you get into npcs vehicles and force them to drive, so ducking to evade the police would make it even more useful and immersive.

@The_XXI Thanks again for your help.
Working my way through the stripped down police/stealth files you posted, In crimeinformation.meta you have two entries of <Item key="CRIME_KILL_PED">. i guess it have no negative effects but want to be sure.
Will it have any effect to add MaxDistanceToHear to CRIME_STEAL_VEHICLE?

@littlefilms It's possible to edit, but for that specific goal, I really don't know. I guess that would go into the script category, creating maybe a wanted level/timer modifier when ducking is performed. I don't know.

@xxx78 No every value works with every item but you can try. (Example I tried to bring true and ultimate stealth by doing the exact same thing for bullet impacts and bullet flying near people's heads, only to create weird behavior in peds.)

Again, creativity, out of the box thinking, and trial and error are good companion when modding.

@The_XXI
cheers dude, I kinda got it working! Im using this alongside arrest warrant and better chases and it works brilliantly! I had to reduce the sense range and id range pretty low to 10 for senses and 1-5 for id rang but arrest warrant makes up for their unawareness. The police still go to my last location but they can't id me unless they're literally looking into the window of my car. I'm also using this with passenger mod and it can be used to evade the police, just hop in their car whilst ducking and the police seem to not be able to see the player, well unless their looking into the window to see some shady dude